That’s the link to the post on the Amnesty International web-site. Comparing to the reports that the local human rights watchdogs provide on the terrifying treatment the protesters are exposed to, that AI report is just a drop in the ocean. I would like to quote two excerpts from the AI article:
“They beat us like animals. I thought they would beat us until we were dead. It is very hard when you are innocent.”
Anatol Matasaru was reported to have been forced by the policemen who were beating him to lick their boots so that they would stop.
I have no words to add. Just one more thing – while president Voronin has announced the amnesty of all protesters detained after the anti-communists rally last week, except those with criminal past, he did not say a word about launching investigations into “allegations of inhuman treatment” of young protesters.
May 7, 2009 at 12:10 am
So police abuse, beatings, etc in Moldova is wrong. But not in Saakashvili’s Georgia which, curiously, you seem to support in your IDSI pieces, despite the documented fact that Georgia committed war crimes in attacking Tshkinvali.
Then again hypocrisy seems to be standard with petty nationalists who dress up their visceral grudge match with Russia in corporate jargon and the language of power imbibed in US universities.
After all, didn’t Saakashvili graduate from Columbia ?Hasn’t done him much good.
Any abuses by the police is wrong. But G20 protestors get beaten up in Britain too. One was actually killed. That hardly leads to the conclusion that New Labour ought to be overthrown.
BTW, I’ve noticed that Twitter Revolutionaries like Oleg Brega are closely related to far-right nationalists who call for Greater Romania, one that tends to see merit in Antonescu and is tinged with anti-semitism.
That’s the problem with all these trendy think tanks. The Orwellian style jargon gives the illusion of objectivity but often it conceals some rather unpleasant political realities-in your case anti-Russian racism.
After all, in the early 1990s Moldovan ethnic nationalists were advocating reducing Russians to second class citizens, something airbrushed out of anything you write and that is written as propaganda for Western consumption.
The sheer ranting defensive tone of your last response goes to show what psychopathologies are bubbling under the surface.
May 7, 2009 at 12:17 am
Oh,I forgot that Saakashvili’s regime not only committed war crimes ( according to HRW ) but also conducts rigged elections in Georgia, torture and confinement of prisoners in Soviet style conditions. There’s also the repression of the media.
In November 2007, protesters were treated to rubber bullets, beatings, and tear gas by Georgia robocops ( equipped by the West ). Saakashvili used the war to shore up domestic support for his corrupt rule.
None of that has made its way into your IDSI propaganda screeds blaming the Georgian attack on South Ossetia on Russia.
May 7, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Look, I believe you got to make a difference between police battering protesters taken into custody, and a country trying to recover with the use of force its territories, occupied by a foreign country. These are not technically very similar cases to engage into some comparison exercise.
Then, what does it have to do Georgia’s attack on Tskhinvali with the Moldovan police battering young protesters, while they are in police custody? You got to be a bit more logical and competent, Mr. Karl Naylor. Your verbal equilibristics is not impressive at all. Your next line accuse me of being an anti-Russian nationalist, an accusation you are using below an article that says not a word about Russia, and not giving any hint of nationalism. Look, I’ve been deleting similar comments of some Russian-speaking crackpots, and I am ready to treat similarly the English-speaking crackpots, if that’s what they are. I accept criticism, if it is to the point, and brings sound arguments, but your posts would be funny, if they did not require my time to respond.
Here you go: Yes, Saakashvili graduated from Columbia Law School, and I graduated from School of Public and International Affairs of Columbia University, so what is your point? Behind me and Saakashvili, hundred of thousands of other people have graduated from Columbia, and from Yale, and from Moscow State University, and so on. So what? Make your point sound, clear and to the point, dude.
Ah, finally you recognize that the abuses by the police are wrong, and look at you – you even bring a relevant example – a case from UK! There is at least one wrong thing in your argument, and, as I already pointed out in my previous response to your comments, that is where you always are wrong. First of all, in UK police has reacted against the violent crowd, on the spot – it tried to do what police must do – to separate the instigators from the crowd and arrest them, to calm the crowd, to avoid damage to public and private property, etc. Now, in our Moldova case, things were completely different, but you won’t know it, would you? You do not care to read first what happened and how it happened because you basically do not give a big damn about it – you only I suppose brag for the sake of bragging – whatever are my posts about (may be even about the healthy food) you will anyway mention in your posts that I graduated from a US university, and I am nationalist, and anti-Russian. Time to change the melody, dude.
Getting back to Moldova – the fact is (opposite to your UK example), police in Moldova did not do its job during the protests, it did not separate the instigators of violence from the crowd, even though these operated openly and freely, being in the first line of the protesters; police did not stop people from destroying public and private property during the protests, to the contrary it provoked them (read the news of those days); and police started its crackdown on protesters when there was no demonstration: it started arresting people walking on the streets, picking up students during their clases in universities, getting young people of the buses and cars at the checkpoints at the outskirts of the capital city. That is different from your G20 example, isn’t it?
Mr. Brega has his constitutional right to express his opinion about the future of Moldova, as a citizen of Moldova. I don’t see anything wrong in this, and I don’t understand your point again. I also do not see any link between Brega and Antonescu, but maybe you do, not willing to explain it to me and the readers of this blog
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Well, I got tired reading your non-sense, which besides that fact that is completely irrelevant as a comment to my article above, lacks sound logic in the way you expressed it. One more thing, please do show me (concrete example) “my IDSI propaganda pieces” so that I know what are you talking about. And try next time to be more to the point – otherwise I may be tempted to save my time and delete these of your comments, which will show no sign of intelligence.